Ayaan Hirsi Ali Part Two (of Two)
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Dutch parliamentarian Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a native of Somalia who emigrated to The Netherlands in the early 1990s, is no stranger to controversy among her fellow Muslims. Living in the West, she felt free to publicly criticize Islam's treatment of women.
But that freedom came at a price. In 2004, a short film Ali scripted called Submission was shown on Dutch television. In the film, naked women veiled with see-through shrouds painted with verses of the Quran kneel in prayer, telling their stories as if they are speaking to Allah.
The film's co-writer and director Theo Van Gogh was later stabbed to death by a Muslim radical. A letter pinned to the body with a dagger threatened Ali's life. Since then, she has been under the constant protection of body guards.
The danger hasn't stopped her from remaining outspoken about her beliefs. Ali calls her new collection of essays, The Caged Virgin, an "Emancipation Proclamation" for women and Islam.
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to kaiuait:
In addition, everything that you can find in libraries about Alexander the Great, Attila the Hun, even Socrates and Aristotle, was written sometimes centuries after those people died - not from eyewitness accounts but by careful historians who collected and examined eyewitness acounts, analyzed texts, talked to the sons and grandsons of people who lived in the time etc. This is how history is recorded. Hardly ever do you have historians that walked with the subjects of their study.
kaiuit:
What's interesting is that most scholars accept the historicity of the events in the book of Acts. They accept that Luke, the author, carried out an exhaustive historical research into the events and produced a copy that he believed historically accurate, perhaps based on other texts and the stories of other people. This is how history is written. If I want to write about the history of the Babylonians, I'll collect documents from that era, analyze them and base my account on them.
kaiuit: Why would Muslims pose any kind of problem for me? I treat them as friends. Noone else saw or heard him converse with the angel Gabriel. He is his only proof of the truth of his material. The only way to get soemone to believe a text for which you have no evidence that it came from God is by the sword. The Meccan part of the Quran contains verses of peace, but in 15 years peace earned 1 convert. The Medinan part of the Quran thus has violent verses to allow him to spread Islam.
You need to be concerned, of course in this life, because they don't.
Had to give you a thumbs up, your right of course & there is so much more to the "foundation" of Islam.
But the same goes for all three of the desert religions...all based on pagan beliefs & from error ridden oral traditions/translations.
Your so close, jump one small step to the truth. Ha.
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If fact more scholars are aware of the synoptic problem with Matthew, Mark, & Luke, will based on Q?
The names of the Gospels are NOT the actual authors as they were added later by Church leaders or scribes. The texts do NOT give the names of their authors.
History is written by the WINNERS.
The historical evidence does not support the KJV (1611) version of the bible.
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But we are talking about a "book" that was the word of a GOD, right?
While you are capable of offering some sort of explanation for nearly any biblical problem that can be uncovered, such explanations should be unnecessary. The point is not whether some explanation can be conceived, but rather that a perfect, all-powerful, and loving God certainly could, should, and would do a much better job of it were he to have anything to do with the writing of a book, right?.
Sorry, NO eyewitness accounts. But your welcome to share that info I missed.
Only 2nd hand accounts...as Paul wrote, or was he an eye witness in his letters?
Maybe if you read Dr. Bart Ehrmans book "Misquoting Jesus-The Story behind who changed the bible & why"?
You are presupposing what God would and would not do. How can you predict the behaviour and methods of God, when you neither believe in Him nor have any evidence of the way such a God would do things, were he to exist. Check Job 36:26. This means that man could not possibly begin to say what kind of job is a "good" job in God's eyes, unless God revealed his will to him. You've built your own God who should do things the way you would if you were him. But He is beyond our expectations.
Of course I don't pretend to know the mind or motives of any heavenly deity & the writers of ancient texts to.
I also don't claim to believe that any exist, hence the burden of prove is on your shoulders?
There is no credibility in any writings you quote unless maybe your getting this info from the original greek texts?
I put no head higher than my own...& so don't believe in any ancient world myths. Though all the stories are very good. :-)
You mention, "how many people visited jesus tomb", but you don't mention the added verses (end) in Mark by scribes that are NOT in the original earlier text. Why?
Why are there so many different versions of the bible. Which one is correct, which ones are not?
"The big picture" is that men wrote the bible over an 1,100 year period. It is not the work of any heavenly deity. Same with the Qur'an over a 23 year period.
Appears we agree on Islam...I just go one step further. :-)
Actually my description is based on my local christian brethen's. My "god" is the force behind it ALL. Just waiting for science to find it.
Are you saying I'm setting up a "straw man" argument? :-)
Maybe we agree on Ayaan? She is a doll! And I mean this in a good way, but I would not mind knocking her up. Ha. Though I am a bleached black man living in S. CA USA, & I would get the stares. :-)
Glad she's here in the USA. What a gem!